Thursday, July 12, 2012

New Institution, Downstream From Creedal Statement

This could get me into trouble. That's why I submit it to wiser ones. Downstream from the statement in the Creed about ... in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
Born of the Virgin Mary,...'

could there be an application such as (a new institution, a new room in the Lord (Jesus), in Whom we live and move and have our being, and in Whom all things cohere) this, that this new institution is conveived by the Spirit of the times (sons of Issachar) to be born of the Church (to be presented a pure Virgin, Paul) , as all are to images of the Trinity in Heaven (Ephesians about the family), just as tribes, nations, cosmopolitan situations, the Church, the Christian state, the University, etc. we downstream?

What will this be? We don't know. We may, per Amos 3:7 (...the Lord does nothing unless He reveals his secret to his servants the prophets) 'sodeprehend' (grasp the secret) by responding as in Psalm 1: 1, when God gives us the pattern first, and then the application of the pattern to a new situation, in which new situation we now are, with 'the decline of the state' (Creveld), and 5th generatin warfare (very small groups can wreak great havoc).

A peace tribe? (Grodin, 'Tribes')?

--On the same topic.

A 'torn-ness' thing, Pastor. Yes, we are to be imitators of Christ, but we are torn in that we are also to respond and it would be as he mentioned about the middle ages, that they made budgets for 1000 years when building cathedrals apply, as the Bride, for Christ has done what He has done. So, a response, in this sequence might be something such as Creveld and his 'Rise and Decline of the State,' at the end of which he says that other 'artificial men'/corporations, etc. could be the expressions of the form(s) that arise to do what must be done. (I'd put a Declaration of Independence spin on it, ' is our right, it is our duty...'. But, more deeply, it is downstream from '...conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary...' in the sons of Issacharian sense that the spirit of this time may overshadow a virgin church (Paul, 'I present you...') so that she gives birth to a new social order form, as she gave birth to the Christian state, the university, etc. Berman says that the scholastic approach to developing 'law' was the form for developing science! And Berman also writes that in the middle ages, they had budgets for 1000 yers (a thousand years) for building cathedrals.

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